Mistakes:
- Both Mulan and captain Shang shoot left handed in this scene, while they are otherwise right handed.
- Mulan uses a Mediterranean grip, which is wrong in two ways. Mediterranean grip uses three fingers, Mulan uses only two. The second mistake, they didn't use that release method in China. Asians used mostly Mongolian release, which utilises the thumb holding the string. It requires a thumb ring.
- Captain Shang shoots three arrows in this scene to show how well the Chinese soldiers must learn archery (and after a training montage Mulan and all the others have learned this trick). Shooting three arrows is possible, but hitting three flying targets and then nailing them to another target is not. Of course, but this is a fun scene, so I won't complain about it anymore. Although I really put the red ring here because there's nothing to keep those arrows holding there.
- Shang uses four finger grip, but again, it's necessary in this three-arrow-shot. Anyway, usually using four fingers is not a good idea, since it turns the string too much and can effect the flight of the missile. But the real mistake here is the Mediterranean style instead of Mongolian.
- Arrows don't have any space behind their fletching for fingers to grip and the fletchings do touch both Mulan's and Shang's fingers while they draw.
Good, or... at least okay I guess:
- Recurve bow, since Asians mostly used these. Although it doesn't look much like a Chinese bow.
- Hip quiver, again different than real Chinese quivers, but at least it isn't a standard Hollywood back quiver.
- The arrows are on the left side of the bow here. It would be right if they were shooting with European style, and the bow would be properly on their left hand. But now it's actually not wrong either, since Chinese (as most Asians) shoot the arrow on the thumb side (right side, but in this case, when the characters are mirrored, on the left side). This is most probably a coincidence, they certainly didn't think that much while drawing this scene. It just happened to go right this once. Arrow on the wrong side of the bow is one of the most common mistakes.
And finally a photo from the beginning of the 20th Century. Manchu archers demonstrating Chinese style archery. Note the arrow on the right side, "overdraw" style of shooting, very long fletching on the arrows and typical East Asian quivers with arrows held in place only at their tip.
I do archery myself and think saying Mulan's grip is like that most likely because she never held a bow in her entire life.
ReplyDeleteI see your point here, but I still disagree with it.
DeleteThe Mongolian grip seems to be more natural to most people, at least I've seen many people trying a bow for the first time (or the second, third, tenth...) and gripping the string with their thumb and index finger. This is probably due to the fact that it's the way we normally grab things with our hands. You have to learn the Mediterranean grip, which Mulan is drawn to have here.
But this is all pedantry, since she's not real, just a fictional character in an animation. The real question we should be asking is: did the animators intentionally draw wrong grip for Mulan because she tries the bow for the first time, or did the animators just not know how the Chinese shoot with a bow? I think we can both agree that the latter is the most probable answer.
Thanks for commenting anyway, and have nice times with archery!
I know this is an older post at this point but having stumbled across it and seeing your comment on her not being left handed I do want to point out Mulan herself is in fact Left Handed - while I have no doubt the inaccuracy of the archery and everything else you pointed out that is the one thing you got wrong.
ReplyDeleteYou see her writing and using chopsticks in her left earlier in the movie- she does use her sword in her right I believe but I chalk that up to being how she got trained
My best guess is a bit of both- mostly they didn't know they shoot bows but also may have been trying to show how amateur and bad she is compared to Shang/everyone else.
As for Shang shooting left? maybe it was to show he was so skilled he knew how to shoot right or left- earlier on we do see him shoot right when he sends the arrow on to the pole so idk.